Impressions: BYU and San Diego State

Written March 2nd, 2011 by Jay

Among the flurry of rivalry games and games that saw lower ranked teams overcoming higher ranked teams this past weekend, one matchup pitted two top-10 schools against each other in a contest that featured some “non-traditional” powers that have risen to the upper echelons of college basketball this season.  The BYU Cougars, led by player of the year candidate Jimmer Fredette, went on the road to meet the San Diego State Aztecs, with the teams playing not only for bragging rights this year, but potentially for a shot at a #1 tournament seeding, especially given the recent losses of other teams near the top of the rankings.

The Cougars prevailed in the game as the lower ranked team, and as a result both teams found themselves with the same season record as our own Buckeyes at 27-2.  The game represented a big win on the road for BYU, and a disappointing loss for San Diego State, who lost to BYU earlier in the season to record their first L of the year.  The matchup was intriguing in that the two clubs play significantly different styles, and in the end it was the outside shooting of the Cougars that proved to be the more effective strong suit.

Truly it was a shooting clinic for BYU.  Fredette led all scorers with 25 points, which included four 3-pointers, and teammate Charles Abouo posted 18 points, knocking down four three’s of his own.  The Aztecs only led when the score was 2-0, and every time SDSU made a bid to draw even another BYU three-pointer would rain down to extend the lead once again.  The Cougars also shot over 85% from the foul line.  Kawhi Leonard led the way for San Diego State with 17 points and 13 boards.

Kawhi Leonard could take his team on an NCAA Tournament run with his play around the hoop

Looking at the Aztecs first, one is reminded of a team like Missouri.  They have a bunch of good all-around players who seem to have gelled as a team, and they are best when driving to the rim and taking advantage of their athleticism.  The SDSU squad is not an outside shooting team.  They are most effective getting into the lane and opening up opportunities around the basket, particularly for Leonard, a star sophomore, and senior Malcolm Thomas, a 6’9 forward.

It was a great atmosphere in the home gym for San Diego State, and frequently throughout the game it seemed like they clearly had momentum.  But despite SDSU standing out as the more aggressive team, a glance at the scoreboard always revealed that BYU maintained the lead.  The Aztecs could make an occasional mini-run, and at times demonstrated an ability to lock down the Cougars on defense, but it was inconsistent, and BYU seemed to take advantage of every lapse.

Ohio State could likely play San Diego State’s type of game very naturally.  The Aztecs play primarily in the paint, but to some extent this depends on their success at getting around defenders on the perimeter.  With strong defenders at our guard positions, Ohio State could find that they are effective at shutting down SDSU’s main strength.  It would not be a bad strategy to let SDSU prove they can beat you from the outside before committing to tight man defense beyond the arc.  Running with the Aztecs would not be an issue, and the only true danger I could see would be if Leonard gets it going on the offensive glass for second chance points and fouls on our big men.

BMOC at BYU

In contrast to San Diego State, BYU is a team that will simply shoot you out of the gym, especially from downtown.  Make no mistake – this is not a one-man show.  Fredette gets the hype, for good reason, but the Cougars have a variety of weapons that will knock down the open jumper.  In fact, in Saturday’s game Fredette nearly recorded a double-double, notching 9 assists to his teammates.  While Fredette is the focal point of the offense, it could easily be another BYU player that beats the opponent on any given night.

This was the first time I had really had a chance to watch Fredette this season, so some comments seem warranted.  He has no problem with giving up the rock to a teammate, but his teammates always look for him when the double comes or when they get stuck, and as a result he usually ends up with the ball back in his hands.  Fredette has great range on his shot, and can pull up for bombs from downtown even when he isn’t totally set.  He is so dangerous because he hits the three like Jon Diebler, but can do it off the dribble from awkward angles.  You can’t give him any room, and at times SDSU took chances that hurt them.  On one play in particular, the Aztec player decided to stick on Fredette in the backcourt after scoring on a possession, attempting to prevent Fredette from receiving the inbounds pass.  Fredette broke free, got down the court, and as the SDSU defender caught up he drifted past Fredette just enough that he wasn’t close enough when Fredette pulled up from beyond the arc.  There is little room for error, and going for the steal against BYU should be used sparingly given the potential consequences for a failed attempt.

The strategy isn't just to give the ball to Jimmer. It's also to get you to forget about guys like Jackson Emery.

BYU is the more concerning team when looking at a matchup with Ohio State.  Their big men could draw Sullinger and Lauderdale away from the basket, and their outside shooting ability could lead to repeated drives to the hoop if our bigs can’t move their feet quickly enough.  The Cougars also play intelligent basketball, working the ball around with crisp passing to find open shots.  While trying to out-fundamental a team like Duke could prove disastrous, it may be the right approach against BYU.  Getting their team in foul trouble by exploiting mismatches (Lighty and Buford post-ups, Sullinger against anyone) could be an effective strategy in that the Cougars only used an 8-man rotation and didn’t necessarily have to contend with an offense that ran through one person consistently when playing SDSU.

Despite their impressive play, I would be surprised to see BYU in a #1 seed on Selection Sunday.  If they win their conference tournament, which will likely be another matchup with San Diego State, they would be a deserving team for a top spot in the bracket, but otherwise a team like Kansas or even Duke would be the better choice based on strength of schedule and versatility.

11 Comments

  1. brownslovecoltNo Gravatar
    March 2nd, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    i don’t understand this “jimmer fever.” Aside from the fact that all people care about is scoring, does no one bother to look at his percentages? 45% FG and 41% 3 pt. Good numbers, but not national player of the year numbers. He’s given the green light to shoot from anywhere at any time in the shot clock, of course he’s gonna score a bunch. Take the most recent SDSU game. He scored 25 pts and the media was pouring on compliments. BUT, he was 8 of 23!!! Not that great when you realize that. 42 points against colorado state, he was 11 of 24. Again, not bad numbers by any means, but when you go 6 of 9 from 3, 11 of 24 doesn’t seem that great. It would be if deibler, on any given night, decided to throw up any shot he wanted, he’d probably be averaging around 20 a game.

    I don’t care what the RPI says, BYU has not had a hard schedule. I would love for osu to play them. Put Lighty (with his agility and length) on Jimmer and i’d be pretty confident. Hell, I’d be confident with the shorter craft on him. I was excited to see the BYU SDSU game to see what the hype about both teams was about, and i was not impressed. Neither team looked that great to me

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  2. AcewNo Gravatar
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    Jimmer is this year’s J.J. Reddick. A white guy who is a decent shooter but the media jumps on. How many white guys can play basketball?

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    ErictBBCNo Gravatar
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Jerry Lucas, John Havilcek, Jon Diebler, John Stockton, Bob Knight, Thad Matta…

    I’m done here. =)

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    KenNo Gravatar
    March 3rd, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Larry Bird, Jerry West, Paul Westphal(sp), Dave DeBusschere, Gail Goodrich, Kevin McHale

    I’m done here as well. ;-)

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  3. Lurking_MichaelNo Gravatar
    March 2nd, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    Things said by me while watching that game:

    “My God is San Diego State missing a lot of putbacks and layups! They must be shooting 10% from less than 5 feet from the basket.”

    “There is no end to Jimmer’s range, but boy does he take some stupid shots sometimes.”

    “Jimmer scores a lot of points, but that’s partly because he shoots the ball almost every possession.”

    “Hey, this No. 4 guy for BYU is unconscious right now. Maybe someone should cover him.”

    “I’m not sure why they need to double Jimmer if he’s running the point. Someone’s got to be athletic enough to stay up on him and yet be able to contain his dribble drive. They’re leaving other white shooting guards way too open.”

    “I can’t believe Steve Fisher is still alive.”

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  4. Utot MohNo Gravatar
    March 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    With last night’s loss to UNM, BYU suddenly became a first-round-exit-from-the-tournament team.

    Overrated!

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    EricNo Gravatar
    March 3rd, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    I doubt one loss is going to derail them so much that they suddenly lose in the first round – particularly since (based on current projections) they’re slated for a 2 seed.

    15 seeds pull the upset sometimes, but I think it seems unlikely here.

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    MaliBuckeyeNo Gravatar
    March 3rd, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    Not sure I’d say “over-rated”, since their rating was based on a team with a different makeup (before the suspension of Brandon Davies).

    On that note- it’s actually refreshing to me to see an institution put their values and mission over external measures of “success”, be it on the court or elsewhere.

    Great commentary in the Boston Globe-

    BYU’s decision was a principled one, and if other schools held themselves up to the same standard with regard to important, substantive matters like academic performance, big-time college athletics would be a slightly less corrupt institution.

    To build on that- we probably wouldn’t be having conversations about “oversigning” and whatever Cam Newton may or may not have gotten himself into if everyone had this type of mindset.

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    KenNo Gravatar
    March 3rd, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    Since it was BYU, thank God that Davis wasn’t having sex with one of his multiples wives.

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    EricNo Gravatar
    March 3rd, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Actually, apparently the rule violation was that he had sex with his girlfriend.

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  5. CentralMoBuckNo Gravatar
    March 3rd, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    http://www.bustedcoverage.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/251219461-540×404.jpg

    Photo of Jimmer sitting at the end of the bench last night.

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